Skeetendo

This is amazing! I had thought about this in the past but thought it would take closer to a year than a few weeks. That said, it was when a lot of pokemon data offsets were hardcoded but it's an incredible effort nonetheless! To be honest, I never thought I would see a dex expansion being done due to all the tedious work involving it.

On another note, I don't think that adding all 720 pokemon would be necessary strictly speaking, I guess that would be up to whoever wants to utilize your mod as a base (and I'm sure, that would be many people).

Last edited by Crystal_ (2016-02-28 12:25:21)

Like I said on Twitter, this is really impressive. Like Crystal, I always assumed this would take ages, but you really got after it. I'll take a look through the repo and see if I can at least help you with testing and whatnot. Maybe I'll port this to Red++ eventually but I can already see that some things might interfere of course. Anyways, looking good, and I went ahead and followed the repo on github.

As Crystal mentioned, the feasibility of this hinged on the completeness of pokered.  I only ran into two cases of difficult bugs occurring due to hardcoded constants in pokered, and I committed those fixes to pokered.

I think my plan moving forward is to first add ~300 pokemon.  Then, play through the game completely to discover any bugs that haven't appeared for pokemon ids that are less than 256.

I just kept them the same.  They have their own pokemon ids.

I believe there would be no impact of changing the ids of the Ghost/fossils.  I think you might be getting the Ids mixed up with the pokedex ids.

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll just have to keep an eye on it manually as well. Nice progress!

That's a great question.  Sanquii's randomizer has gen-1-style sprites for all 721, but he isn't releasing them at the moment due to concerns about how the various creators intended the sprites to be used.  (At least, that's what I remember him saying last time I asked)

Any chance of a writeup on what was done?
I've been working on a mod for a while now and could adapt code, but can't exactly start with a fresh base very easily.

Roger that; I'll see if I can't extract more of my changes then and recreate them.
Its been a while since I've been under the hood of mine so I may have more content (maps, scripts, etc) than system changes. Might be easier than expected.

Do want to say: thanks for making this available!!

It was late '14, like November, so a lot of the memory elements are already dynamic. Very few are hardcoded I am finding, thankfully. One small headache was a hardcode of my own I just turned up :D My flag array for 152+ Pokemon was overrunning some data, so I moved it after narrowing that down only to lose connection with my starter script Pokedex flags. Took me a second to remember where that was set, but was an easy fix when I ran it down and properly made it dynamic so I don't run into that issue again.

I very much admire and appreciate this project. One question I have to add with regards to adding new Pokémon is, what should be done about Pokémon with evolution methods that don't exist in Gen 1? For example, I've added the Ledyba and Spinarak lines mostly fine, only having to compromise with their movesets, but the next Pokémon to add is Crobat, a happiness evolution. What should be the priority? Should happiness be backported to the game or should it be given an existing evolution method, like how Red++ evolves Golbat into Crobat via Moon Stone?

I think we should punt the happiness evolution type for now, since it requires a bigger engine change than just adding an easy new evolution type.  If a pokemon has a non-trivial new evo type, I would just use a normal level-based evolution for now.  Here's some quick thoughts on the new types:

Tyrogue - Easy to add.
Friendship - Just do level-based for now.
Knows Move - Easy to add.
Level Up in Certain Area - Easy to add.
Time of Day - Easy to add.  Just look at the in-game time to fake it?
Level Up while Holding Item - Just do level-based for now.
Level Up while Holding the GameBoy upside down - Why does this even exist?