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#1 2013-04-18 16:41:25

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Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

In August 2012, when I was in France, I did a bizar discovery on the internet: I found a video of the REAL Lavender Town music, which plays in the beta version of Pokémon Green.
Here is the video.
I wonder how CommodoreKulor got the ROM. I have Googled, but I can't find the beta ROM anywhere. I have downloaded a Pokémon Green ROM called "Pocket Monsters - Green Version (J) (V1.0) (S).gb", but when I went to Lavender Town, the FINAL music was still playing.
Now, I wonder whether there are people who have the ROM, and want to share it. I am even not sure if the music in the video is really made by Pokémon. It is possible that CommodoreKulor is a really good Music Hacker, who can change music so good, that it sounds legit.
If I ever get the Beta ROM, with the glitches, the Beta Lavender Town Music, etc., I am going to make a gameplay/walkthrough of the game, and share the download link in the description.


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#2 2013-04-18 17:39:23

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

it's a fake,and to make it believable,commodorekulor or others even altered the text for  the pokemon center and mart signs (look,they're in japanese in that video).Also,the music is fake,for these reasons:
1. Game boy/colour/ ISN'T capable of that.music for gameboy is short and always loops,but in that video there are additional sound effects later
2. The version 1.0 you can download (check md5 hash and see if it has the md5 of 1.0 to be sure) is  nothing so different.if you buy a cartridge of green/japanese red on ebay,check the sticker.if you see only numbers,it's a 1.0

I also think this lavender town thing is just a creepypasta,no difference between releases.

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#3 2013-04-18 17:42:19

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

I think the only existant copies of the beta Green are only in Japan, plus, If the thing about the children's suicides is true most of those cartridges may have been destroyed, and the last owners of 'em may not share it cuz it's one of these things that are very rare.
Actually I think the last part of the song was glitched, but it was amazing!
Expecially the first part.
Anyway, I heard soundtracks creepier than that.


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#4 2013-04-18 17:44:24

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Yes, it's a fake.
The first part of the soundtrack was amazing and a bit frightening, why don't try to make one like that, M.o.t.W.?


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#5 2013-04-18 18:57:04

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

I have remade the song in FamiTracker. I also converted it to Pokémon Red/Blue format. It sounds pretty good, but not as good as the original:
Video Here.

95girl wrote:

Game boy/colour/ ISN'T capable of that.music for gameboy is short and always loops,but in that video there are additional sound effects later


Music in Pokémon Red/Blue haven't to loop somewhere. Like that song, it plays again when it's ended. I think that a song like that is certainly possible on the Game Boy. I don't think it's 100% fake. I doubt if it is even fake as Lavender Town theme, but if it is fake, I think it's a very good music hack from CommodoreKulor.

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#6 2013-04-18 19:01:11

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Actually, I have to go to Game Freak if I visit Japan in my holidays. Then, I will talk with Junichi Masuda about the original cartridges. Nintendo is not a company that destroys it's creations easily. Maybe, I can buy an original cartridge from them, or they will send me the ROM file.


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#7 2013-04-18 19:03:39

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Nobody died,that's a creepypasta.there was nothing special with 1.0 roms or cartriidges,and they are not rare.it may happen after buying japanese red/green from ebay,you check printed letters on the sticker's cartridge.if you see only 2 numbers,it's 1.0. If you see numbers and one letter,it's a re-release (just like my japanese red)

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#8 2013-04-18 19:41:22

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

TheMoneyOfTheWorld wrote:

Actually, I have to go to Game Freak if I visit Japan in my holidays. Then, I will talk with Junichi Masuda about the original cartridges. Nintendo is not a company that destroys it's creations easily. Maybe, I can buy an original cartridge from them, or they will send me the ROM file.

Right. Be sure to take a picture of that.

cYa,

Tauwasser

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#9 2013-04-18 20:30:26

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

I read a rare thing about pokemon 4 months ago, correct me if I'm wrong.

I knew about one of the earliest betas ever for Pokemon and it comes from 1991\1992, if I haven't read bad, Pokemon Red, or better, Capsule Monsters was about to be a SNES (or NES, I don't remember) game, the first beta ever had 5 cities (it stops at vermillion city) and only the first 50 Pokemon avaiable, the last pseudo-SNES beta has 150 Pokemon (not Mew yet) and all the cities including E4 League, If I'm not wrong in the first version there were some differences:

1- colors. Yes, there were more colors since is SNES, but the details are low, such as ground pave tiles completely white (I can't find that image but I swear I've seen it! Pallet town with purple roofs, & white ground)

2- Initially Bruno was a Gymleader & not an E4;

3- Saffron City was the Rocket Dungeon and the Silph was a kind of HQ, infact you had to fight against the Silph Chief and win the Master Ball, only at the end of the game after the E4;

4- 26 Routes instead of 25, the scrapped one in the north of Fuchsia City after the cycling routes, I don't know anything about the Safari, if there already was it should have been located in the west, plus there's an extra city, that city was the map $0B (11 in decimal) and was located after Saffron City, it was located between Fuchsia & Celadon, just in the North of that scrapped route;

5- 150 Pokemon without Mew, but in one very later beta I've read there were 190 Pokemon including Marill & probabilly Entei (that was replaced with Arcanine), most of you may know this;

6- Using a map editor tool I've found a hidden\unused chamber inside Lance's Room, was that room meant to be the final chamber where you have to face Gary?
I don't know but I guess that was so;

and there are more differences...

MoneyoftheWorld, if you see Junichi Masuda and could talk with him about the Beta testing release, please, could ask him also about the previous Pokemon betas, I mean, if Pokemon Red originally was meant to be a game bigger than the definitive version we actually play?
I wish all we know about it and also about that cut\eliminated town, the unused music in Red and if there were some storyline changes during the developing, because the facts about facing the Silph Chief made me thought there was a different storyline than the one we know.


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#10 2013-04-19 02:44:05

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

TheMoneyOfTheWorld wrote:

Actually, I have to go to Game Freak if I visit Japan in my holidays. Then, I will talk with Junichi Masuda about the original cartridges. Nintendo is not a company that destroys it's creations easily. Maybe, I can buy an original cartridge from them, or they will send me the ROM file.

For some reason I don't believe that could ever happen.  But if it does, I'd be more than happy to eat my own words.  If you can actually get past Game Freak's security, that would be amazing.

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#11 2013-04-19 04:57:13

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Munchulax wrote:
TheMoneyOfTheWorld wrote:

Actually, I have to go to Game Freak if I visit Japan in my holidays. Then, I will talk with Junichi Masuda about the original cartridges. Nintendo is not a company that destroys it's creations easily. Maybe, I can buy an original cartridge from them, or they will send me the ROM file.

For some reason I don't believe that could ever happen.  But if it does, I'd be more than happy to eat my own words.  If you can actually get past Game Freak's security, that would be amazing.

Yeah, you should definitely try as hard as you can to get past security. Protip: To get past security guards, bring jumbo chalk as your weapon. You can stab them in the eye with it, or you can grind it up and blow it into their eyes. Remember: They eyes are the groin of the head.

Hope this helps.

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#12 2013-04-19 13:06:07

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

So, are you saying to broke into Nintendo Building and steal some material?

Well, I don't wanna make you a criminal or propose a criminal act, but I heard is better try to infiltrate during a day when there's a mourning of one of the staff because there's no security since all tha guards are watchin the funeral.
I remember some guards work also in the holidays, so during a mourning is the right time for infiltration.

Better if you get sly & astute and don't hurt guards, just rip-off them, because in Japan the penalties are severe and there's also the capital punishment, so don't try make a mess and don't get caught up as a suspect, I heard the last guy was caught up stealing in Nintendo they have skewered all his arts' nerves and now he's in jail, on a wheelchair.

Good luck & watch out!


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#13 2013-04-19 13:09:49

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

(...)*break* into Nintendo Building (...)


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#14 2013-04-19 15:24:27

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Tauwasser wrote:
TheMoneyOfTheWorld wrote:

Actually, I have to go to Game Freak if I visit Japan in my holidays. Then, I will talk with Junichi Masuda about the original cartridges. Nintendo is not a company that destroys it's creations easily. Maybe, I can buy an original cartridge from them, or they will send me the ROM file.

Right. Be sure to take a picture of that.

cYa,

Tauwasser

If I get an original Pokémon Red/Green cartridge from Pokémon, I will sure share it on this website. :)
So, you don't have to worry about avarice of me. :)


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#15 2013-04-19 15:29:27

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Great!

Also, we don't have to worry that you must infiltrate in the Nintendo Building as we have hypotized, I reflected about it and probabily you won't have to do that.


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#16 2013-04-19 15:33:22

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

80C wrote:

I read a rare thing about pokemon 4 months ago, correct me if I'm wrong.

I knew about one of the earliest betas ever for Pokemon and it comes from 1991\1992, if I haven't read bad, Pokemon Red, or better, Capsule Monsters was about to be a SNES (or NES, I don't remember) game, the first beta ever had 5 cities (it stops at vermillion city) and only the first 50 Pokemon avaiable, the last pseudo-SNES beta has 150 Pokemon (not Mew yet) and all the cities including E4 League, If I'm not wrong in the first version there were some differences:

1- colors. Yes, there were more colors since is SNES, but the details are low, such as ground pave tiles completely white (I can't find that image but I swear I've seen it! Pallet town with purple roofs, & white ground)

2- Initially Bruno was a Gymleader & not an E4;

3- Saffron City was the Rocket Dungeon and the Silph was a kind of HQ, infact you had to fight against the Silph Chief and win the Master Ball, only at the end of the game after the E4;

4- 26 Routes instead of 25, the scrapped one in the north of Fuchsia City after the cycling routes, I don't know anything about the Safari, if there already was it should have been located in the west, plus there's an extra city, that city was the map $0B (11 in decimal) and was located after Saffron City, it was located between Fuchsia & Celadon, just in the North of that scrapped route;

5- 150 Pokemon without Mew, but in one very later beta I've read there were 190 Pokemon including Marill & probabilly Entei (that was replaced with Arcanine), most of you may know this;

6- Using a map editor tool I've found a hidden\unused chamber inside Lance's Room, was that room meant to be the final chamber where you have to face Gary?
I don't know but I guess that was so;

and there are more differences...

MoneyoftheWorld, if you see Junichi Masuda and could talk with him about the Beta testing release, please, could ask him also about the previous Pokemon betas, I mean, if Pokemon Red originally was meant to be a game bigger than the definitive version we actually play?
I wish all we know about it and also about that cut\eliminated town, the unused music in Red and if there were some storyline changes during the developing, because the facts about facing the Silph Chief made me thought there was a different storyline than the one we know.

I already tought that the graphics from Pokémon Gen II were devamped from something older and a little bit photorealistic. It's really cool that you have read about a 20 years old beta.

I respect the makers of Pokémon and any other game developer, so I will not steal the game, or kidnap the staff of Pokémon. (That's even impossible). I will talk about it with the creators/staff, and I will take money with me, so I can offer money to get some unreleased stuff. I am sure that Nintendo/Game Freak stores all their work on databases, also the Pokémon Betas.


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#17 2013-04-19 15:39:21

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

TheMoneyOfTheWorld wrote:

I already tought that the graphics from Pokémon Gen II were devamped from something older and a little bit photorealistic. It's really cool that you have read about a 20 years old beta.

I can't find that result anymore, I dunno if it was then closed for project leaking or maybe I'm just searching in the wrong place, anyway I've read this in August 2012.
I've read the 1991\1992 SNES Beta was scrapped because in that years the Game Boy project was coming out, Pokemon would have been nicer on a portable device than a unmobile one, so the players could make trades as well, making the game more interesting.
The beta is only in japanese if I'm not wrong.


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#18 2013-04-19 15:41:53

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Munchulax wrote:

For some reason I don't believe that could ever happen.  But if it does, I'd be more than happy to eat my own words.  If you can actually get past Game Freak's security, that would be amazing.

Vitharix wrote:

Yeah, you should definitely try as hard as you can to get past security. Protip: To get past security guards, bring jumbo chalk as your weapon. You can stab them in the eye with it, or you can grind it up and blow it into their eyes. Remember: They eyes are the groin of the head.

Hope this helps.

80C wrote:

So, are you saying to broke into Nintendo Building and steal some material?

Well, I don't wanna make you a criminal or propose a criminal act, but I heard is better try to infiltrate during a day when there's a mourning of one of the staff because there's no security since all tha guards are watchin the funeral.
I remember some guards work also in the holidays, so during a mourning is the right time for infiltration.

Better if you get sly & astute and don't hurt guards, just rip-off them, because in Japan the penalties are severe and there's also the capital punishment, so don't try make a mess and don't get caught up as a suspect, I heard the last guy was caught up stealing in Nintendo they have skewered all his arts' nerves and now he's in jail, on a wheelchair.

Good luck & watch out!

I am not going to do hateful things to the makers of Pokémon. I did play Pokémon, and it was very good. If I want unreleased stuff from them, I do it on a respectful way. I will talk about it with them, and I will try to BUY things. No, stealing is against my principles.


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#19 2013-04-19 15:44:21

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

TheMoneyOfTheWorld wrote:

I respect the makers of Pokémon and any other game developer, so I will not steal the game, or kidnap the staff of Pokémon. (That's even impossible). I will talk about it with the creators/staff, and I will take money with me, so I can offer money to get some unreleased stuff. I am sure that Nintendo/Game Freak stores all their work on databases, also the Pokémon Betas.

Well it's good to know that you won't kidnap the entire staff.  But if you do actually get to talk with the creators, make sure you film the interview or at least take pictures.  You speak Japanese right?  'Cause I'm thinking that most of them probably don't speak English very well.


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#20 2013-04-19 15:46:46

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

I remembered also that in the very first beta there was no dragon type, it was added at last.

Another difference were the attack damage:
also, the max damage used in the game was 100 and not 200.
Here are those one I remember, I remember them because they were different.
name - type - damage

Earthquake - ground - 100
Tri-attack - normal - 100
Hydro Pump - water - 100
flamethrower - fire - 80
fire bomb - fire - 100
hyper beam - normal - 100
self-destruction - normal - 100 and your pokemon faints
explosion - normal - 1 hit k.o. and your pokemon faints


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#21 2013-04-19 15:52:00

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Yeah, a Skeetendo's exclusive interview with the creators about the darkest mysteries and origins of Pokemon Red\Green would be great!

Record the interview or at least post some photos, it would be great!


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#22 2013-04-19 16:01:57

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

Hey, that music isn't only in that previous adress!

I've found it without the click effect or other rumours!
Here is it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz4pTgR0vEo

So, the music is real but the children's suicides are a creepypasta legend.


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#23 2013-04-19 16:30:57

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

It's fake the same,i mean it's fan made.like the haunting.swf,the staticmesh.wav,the white hand and the buried alive model

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#24 2013-04-19 16:47:52

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

no, I wanted mean the music isn't buildt with a sound program like FLStudio, Nero or Audacity but probabilly with a Fami Tracker.

It's one of the greatest music I've heard in R\B\Y\G (exept Brown, I really liked the Jotho Cave theme).
The first part is very cool because it seems the music heard in the movie the dark knight when Joker cuts the guy's lips just like him.
And I like that explosion\gong effect followed by the flute.

You could obtain that soundtrack easier with the video I linked, because there are no click effects or other effects, the sound is cleaner.


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#25 2013-04-19 18:58:00

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Re: Pokémon Green 1995 Beta - Weird Lavender Town Music

From my Side... This is veird theme... Really but no one trust me... After this music i start bleeding from nose. Meybe it was caused by to high pitch.


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