Skeetendo

Yeah, that is indeed a problem. Until I can find this to fix it properly, you don't have to feel like cheating if you use a gameshark code to catch Articuno if he runs away from you. I'm giving you a permission slip.

Obviously, I'm not used to signing my name as "Mateo" so it came out a bit odd. Haha!

The only thing I can think of at first is to try looking for the bytes of the dogs, and see if there is a list with them and the birds as well. In all honesty this will probably take some ASM knowledge to "backtrace" it, and ASM isn't my strong suit.

On that same note, there appears to be a similar thing controlling which Pokemon will be asleep if encountered at night. These are Pokemon like Pidgey who can only normally be encountered at night through headbutt, so it made sense to have them be asleep if knocked out of a tree at night. I ran into issue with this one working on SaR when I disabled the clock. I fixed it by making the time get stuck during the day. But hopefully someone can figure it out.

I'm guessing he either: 1) found the table and edited who was in it, or 2) happened to use people who were in it, liked the effect, and kept it that way. haha

I have an idea, actually. In Hack-O-Matic, the Pokemon editor has the option to edit 7 values listed as unknown. Possibly might it be those?

After searching, I found that while most Pokemon have values of 100 20 5 0 0 0 0 the Birds and Dogs both have 100 80 5 0 0 0 0. I think I'm going to change it and see what happens.

EDIT: Changed all the 80's to 20's, no effect unfortunately. It was worth a shot, though.

Last edited by EvilOttoJr (2011-01-03 21:19:13)

Or look at Suicune in Crystal and how it differs from the other two beasts.

New information that can be helpful:

I found a page detailing different types of Balls.
FAST BALLS (made from WHT APRICORN) have a 4x better chance to catch a Pokemon if it is apt to flee.
The page lists the Pokemon which normally do so: Abra, Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr. Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, Dragonair, Entei, Suicune and Raikou.

We need to find out what these Pokemon have in common (NOTE: I would not use Abra to check since it's only move is Teleport and thus it has no choice but to flee).

It is also noted that the FAST BALL apparently (at a guess from this webpage) has these Pokemon listed in its data as opposed to working off a certain value. I do not know if this is true, I'm just assuming. I will attempt to use one on the Birds and report my findings.

EDIT: The FAST BALL does not help in the case of the Birds. Ultra Balls are more effective, as opposed to the 4x bonus of Fast Ball for the aforementioned Pokemon.
Also, the Birds do not flee as much as the Dogs. Entei will flee before I can get Mean Look off (Sharked him in) but the Birds will usually stay around for a turn or two, maybe more if I'm lucky. So the flee value for the Dogs and the Birds will likely not be identical.

Last edited by EvilOttoJr (2011-01-04 05:26:04)

I've been working on a Silver hack with all 251 Pokemon, so I ran into this problem. Anyway, after a few hours of searching I think I've found where the fleeing Pokemon list is located.

At offset 0x03C560 there's a list which includes 0x90, 0x91, and 0x92. Changing these to 0x00 stops the birds from fleeing. I've tested with Articuno, trying the others now to be sure.

Thanks, skishore.

So there are three lists. Probably they are in order of increasing likelihood to flee, with anything in the third list fleeing instantly.

0x3C551 (Gold), 0x3C59A (Crystal):

• Magnemite

• Grimer

• Tangela

• Mr. Mime

• Eevee

• Porygon

• Dratini

• Dragonair

• Togetic

• Umbreon

• Unown

• Snubbull

• Heracross

0x3C55F (Gold), 0x3C5A8 (Crystal):

• Cubone

• Articuno

• Zapdos

• Moltres

• Quagsire

• Delibird

• Phanpy

• Teddiursa

0x3C568 (Gold), 0x3C5B1 (Crystal):

• Raikou

• Entei

• Suicune (not in Crystal)

So changing those to 00 would make the Pokemon unable to flee?