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#26 2012-10-21 01:53:13

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Re: Red hack: Pokémon Prototype

I finally stumbled upon Poketto's recolor of Cue Ball! You can check it out in the first post. :)

I'm still looking for someone (PixelEye, Poketto) to revamp/recolor a couple gen 1 trainers..
Engineer, Tamer, Lorelei, Agatha
Anyone is free to attempt these revamps for me if you like. And if I think it's good enough, I'll use it and give credit :)

kkj1116 wrote:

Venusaur's different palette is an ingenious idea! I hope you do that for several other Pokemon who may need it, i.e. Porygon.

And kkj1116, I'm still wondering why you say Porygon needs a seperate palette for its back sprite.. :P

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#27 2012-10-21 05:36:00

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Re: Red hack: Pokémon Prototype

58879988.png 11819225.png 10027777.png 74399518.png

These are the ones I made for SaR. They're pretty samey though.

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#28 2012-10-21 15:07:34

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58879988.png
I liked the minor reshading you've done with this one on the hands, legs, etc. I worked on this one alot this morning based off of the one you did. And I changed the shirt color to purple.
I worked alot on the hair and face, the hand holding the whip, and lots of other minor shading adjustments.
tamery.png
Do you like it?

11819225.png
Well, this was just a palette change and no reshading. And this is my least favorite sprite of all time xD I would really like if someone could do a devamp of a newer generation engineer, like the FRLG sprite for the engineer:
Spr_FRLG_Engineer.png
That would be wonderful.

10027777.png
This one is also just a palette change, but I never minded Agatha's original sprite so much. So this one is a good placeholder in case I ever get a nicer one, but it isn't bad.

74399518.png
I really like your Lorelei recolor! I like the reshading you've done with the hair, eyes, and face. And did you add a heel to her shoe? Nice touch :P

For now, I'm certainly using the Tamer and Lorelei sprite. And you'll get credit for both, even though I edited the Tamer sprite because I'll probably end up editing the Lorelei sprite a bit as well. Thanks alot Mateo! :)

kkj1116 wrote:

Sorry I didn't see your reply.. And I did mean Porygon at the time but I think I confused with Poliwraths and all.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ … th#Sprites
I was thinking of how the backsprite applies to the Japanese versions but not the updated Yellow frontsprites.
In-game, Poliwrath's backsprite has a blue outline and his body is black. His frontsprite is the reverse.. (look at the sprites for reference)

The same applies to Charmeleon. His backsprite is outdated in the updated Yellow version, so the horn on his head is.. out of place.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ … on#Sprites

I think the same applies to Ghastly and his family, especially Gengar.
But I don't think you'll have this problem as you are going with Gold backsprites..
Not even sure why I said that Porygon bit in the first place.

Wow, I never noticed that with Charmeleon's horn from RG vs RBY. Or the Poliwag family from RGB vs Y.
But I have noticed Gastly from RGB vs Y and Gengar from RG vs RBY.
It's all very interesting. But you're right, since I'm using all back sprites from GSC, this won't be an issue. :)

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#29 2012-10-21 15:17:32

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Cool sprites.
And your hack is nice. Best of luck for it. You are going nice on it


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#30 2012-10-21 15:22:05

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#31 2012-10-21 16:55:09

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Yeah, admittedly two of them were just pallet swaps. I thought Agatha looked fine that way, but I'm not very happy with the engineer either. I'm going to work on a new version of it for Spirits and Legends, and I'll post it here when its done in case you want to use it. I was going to go with a proper re-vamp of the original sprite though, instead of a devamp of the newer one.

Also yeah, haha, I gave Lorelei high heels in the revamp. I noticed that she had heels in her official art, and it was a simple enough edit to do, so I thought "Why not?"

And yep, I do like your tweaked version of my Tamer revamp. Is it just me, or do the Tamers kind of look like French Stewart?

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#32 2012-10-21 17:03:45

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Right, Agatha looks pretty good. It's definitely gonna be last priority with these sprites. But if you get an Engineer revamp thrown together and you think it looks half decent, feel free to post it. Cause it's not gonna take much to look better than the original sprite. I don't even know what's on his face.. Is that supposed to be a mustache or a frown or something? I don't get it, but it looks stupid. :P

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#33 2012-10-21 17:07:30

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Yeah I'm not sure what his face is supposed to be doing there either. Its hard to do facial hair in a gen II sprite though. My sprite for example is supposed to have a goatee like I used to have, but it kind of looks like I just have a handlebar mustache or a big frown. But yeah, I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: This is what I've got so far, but still messing around with it.

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#34 2012-10-21 18:24:29

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Danny-E 33 wrote:

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/1027/11819225.png
Well, this was just a palette change and no reshading. And this is my least favorite sprite of all time xD I would really like if someone could do a devamp of a newer generation engineer, like the FRLG sprite for the engineer:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/71/ … gineer.png
That would be wonderful.

As you wish:

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#35 2012-10-21 18:25:06

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Shoot, that's great Mateo. I think that's a great re-do of the original. Different enough to see that it's improved, but subtle enough to see that it is based on the original.

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#36 2012-10-21 18:28:54

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Vitharix wrote:

Shoot, that's great Mateo. I think that's a great re-do of the original. Different enough to see that it's improved, but subtle enough to see that it is based on the original.

Thanks! I still think some of the shading could use a bit more work, particularly on the bottom half of the sprite, but glad you like the direction I'm going with it. Even if Danny doesn't end up using it, I still plan on using it for Spirits and Legends, so I'll keep working on it either way.

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#37 2012-10-22 09:01:17

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Mateo wrote:

Even if Danny doesn't end up using it, I still plan on using it for Spirits and Legends, so I'll keep working on it either way.

Right. I'm gonna have to go with Luigi-San's devamp. It's nothing personal, I just really can't stand the original sprite. :P But best of luck finishing it up at using it in Spirits and Legends :)

And I worked on tweaking that sprite alot today. I tried to more with shading so it matched the style of the rest of the traines instead of looking obviously out of place because of the lack of GSC style shading. Here's what I came up with based off of Luigi-San's sprite:
engineerrj.png
I'm really happy with it :) Thanks Luigi for the start on this. You're definitley getting credit in my hack now! :)

Also! I did a pretty big edit of Pia Carrot's 6x6 back sprite of the old man. Here's how it turned out! :)
oldmanp.png
Any critisism?

Mateo wrote:

And yep, I do like your tweaked version of my Tamer revamp.

Thanks :)

Mateo wrote:

Is it just me, or do the Tamers kind of look like French Stewart?

Haha!

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#38 2012-10-23 15:29:34

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I feel like as soon as I ask a question that's not directed at anyone in particular, no one feels like responding.. >.<

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#39 2012-10-23 16:58:48

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Sorry, I managed to skip over the line asking for criticism when I read this before. To me personally, I think that a devamped old man from Fire Red (Like I have in SaR currently) would look better than the revamped old man from red. His face just looks.. I don't know, pointy? But even more so, it looks out of proportion with his body. If you want, you are welcome to use my old man:
oldmanv.png

I figure it wouldn't be too out of place, since you are using a devamp for the Engineer as well. But if you don't want to just use it, I would say work on the shape of the face a bit, and see about the proportion of the body to the face. The devamped engineer looks good as it is though, I can't think of anything that needs tweaking on it really.

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#40 2012-10-23 23:27:00

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Mateo wrote:

But even more so, it looks out of proportion with his body.

Yeah, that was a huge problem I was dealing with, but I'm an awful spriter and I couldn't work it out to be any more propertional. Oh well :P

Mateo wrote:

If you want, you are welcome to use my old man:
oldmanv.png

Awesome! That looks beautiful! I'll Take it! :D I appreciate it, thank you!
Did you make it yourself?

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#41 2012-10-24 00:01:36

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Its just devamped from Fire Red, it isn't scratch or anything, but yep.

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#42 2012-10-24 01:50:21

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Alright, I edited the shading a bit to make it a little more accurate, I think. Mostly on the eyebrow and chin.
oldmany.png

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#43 2012-10-24 04:49:09

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Here's my first shot at devamping Agatha.
agatha.png
What does everyone think?

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#44 2012-10-24 06:46:41

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Yeah, I get that. Not sure there's anything I can do about it though.. :/
And thanks for the compliment! :)

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#45 2012-10-25 19:42:32

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I went ahead and tried devamping the FRLG Tamer sprite.

tamero.png

Any thoughts?

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#46 2012-10-25 23:24:02

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And finally, here is my devamp of the FRLG Lorelei sprite:

loreleiu.png

I didn't like it so much at first, but I think the more I look at it, the better it seems.
What do you think?

Last edited by Danny-E 33 (2012-10-26 06:42:01)

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#47 2012-10-26 05:15:42

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Both of the sprites look good but something would have to be done to tamer's right eye there.

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#48 2012-10-26 05:33:52

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Really? I played around with his eye quite a bit and I think that's the best I can come up with. Does it look that strange?

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#49 2012-10-26 06:52:40

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Re: Red hack: Pokémon Prototype

I added all of the FRLG devamps that are going in my hack in the first post.
frlgdevamps.png
Thanks again to Mateo for the old man backsprite and to Luigi-San for the Engineer. :)

EDIT: And thank you, PixelEye, for the Cooltrainer F. :)

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#50 2012-10-26 07:28:09

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Wow,nice sprites . You are really serious about your hack. I don't know much about it but supports you with heart


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