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Hi, my name is ReadCutting-T and this is my first post! :) (On this version of the site in particular, I was on the OLD skeetendo forums!)
Ok, with the semantics out of the way, just wanted to ask this simple question: "How old were you when you first started Rom-Hacking?"
I'm generally interested in this, because (especially on pokecommunity) many children appear to be on there asking questions like:
'what tools did u use for this hack?'
I just want to know what minds behind the hacks are like, because when I 'first' got into Rom-Hacking I was 12, and although I was enthusiastic and tried as hard as I could to learn ASM and Hex editing and all that malarky, I couldn't and thought I was an idiot.
I left and didn't return for 5 years, (although I did check for updates on some hacks every month or so and managed to snag the Brown 2.0, Prism 2010 beta when it was released. But I didn't start playing them till the week before last which is what brought me back to Rom-Hacking.)
Now, however I'm 17.5 years old and although the crummy english education system teaches about as much about programming as a bottle of mouthwash (yes even the ICT course was basically looking at friggin spreadsheets in excel and writing about them, grrrrrrr!), I have breezed through the ASM School website (well I would have but I can't get the compiler to work) and got onto the basics of Hex-editing just by browsing these forums for the past few days. (Although I have been learning C# and Python for a while now)
Hopefully I will get started on a hack proper this time!
I'm assuming everybody on these forums who are properly hacking are in their late teens or are adults, however maybe there are 12 year old wizkids and I'm just slow!
Just to reiterate, how old were when you first attempted rom-hacking (or discovered it), how old were you when you first started to properly comprehend how to do it and how old are you know? Do you have a story?
Last edited by ReadCutting-T (2012-04-12 21:45:39)
Let's see, I discovered it in the early 2000s, so I would have been... around 13 I think. The oldest hack I can find that I worked on says last modified 10 May 2003. I would have been 14 that year, but I know I was dabbling with it before that. Trust me, there is no point in me uploading that hack, as it didn't do very much. It was a hack of red with slightly changed dialogue at times, the player and rival were changed, the starters and some of the wild pokemon were changed, but thats all. We didn't know how to do much when I started.
I remember when I found out about hacking, I was coming to it from already messing with RPGMaker 2000, and thinking it would be cool to make a Pokemon game, and then came to find out people were doing that. Back then the hacks everyone was talking about were ones like Brown Version, Orange Islands, Generations, and "The World Famous Talking Cactus". It's weird to think I've been hacking Pokemon for a decade already.
Last edited by Mateo (2012-04-12 22:03:09)
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I find this stuff really interesting, because when you go onto rom-hacking sites for the first time the knowledge everyone has is really overwhelming. Its hard to imagine anyone being a beginner. However, KoolBoyMan recently started a web series where he shows his old hacks, and its fascinating seeing what an accomplished hacker made when they knew basically nothing.
In fact, I'm surprised by his change of heart, because he use to be quite 'strict' on his prism thread but has really opened up since I left the 'scene' anyway.
The same applies to me, I groan at some (see:all) my old pokecommunity posts.
Definitely know that feeling. I remember seeing on my profile that I was once warned for excessive profanity back in the day, for a very ridiculous first "chapter" in a fan fic I had started to write (originally on another forum, started to post it on PC but saw that nobody really cared for it. I can rightly understand, and I'm kind of glad most of is lost.) Looking back on it now, after having taken multiple creative writing classes over the past 5 years, I'm embarassed by it. But hey, it just helps to remind you that we all started somewhere, and if we ever get annoyed with new people we can remember that yes- we were that annoying once too. Lol.
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I believe I also started rom hacking when I was a kid, 12 or 13 years old maybe.
That's when I created my first hack, played brown for the first time and that kind of stuff...
I never got anywhere though and started doing other things like creating SuperTux levels with a friend of mine.
(The latest of them turned out quite cool actually so if anybody here likes mario-type games, check them out)
Anyway, I got back to the scene in 2008 with Crystal Redesign, a bad edit of pokemon crystal.
I've done "real" hacking for ~2 years now and have learned everything from simplest hexadecimal digit edits till basic assembly knowledge.
I also remember how KBM used to act back then and "followed his footsteps" by turning out too much the same - I thought my skills were way beyond those from PC who didn't know how to edit a byte with a hex editor that I could do :D
Nowadays, I accept that "hacking" can also be done with tools only although I sometimes try to convince hackers to do the stuff right way too-