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#1 1970-01-01 00:33:30

Chaos Rush
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Pokémon Epic Gold

Hello guys, I'm Chaos Rush from PokéCommunity, author of "Pokémon Saga - Pokémon DarkViolet". Well, I haven't been working on DarkViolet at all lately because I found out that it's pretty much impossible to edit the PokéDex order in HeartGold, and since DarkViolet is part of a 4-part series of hacks called, "Pokémon Saga", I was planning on making a HeartGold hack in the future, but after finding out the PokéDex problem, I know that I can never complete Pokémon Saga the way I wanted it to be, or at least until 4th Gen hacking progresses more.

So anyways, I'm slowly getting into GBC hacking. This is a mini project I'm working on, called Pokémon Epic Gold. Basically, it fixes a major flaw that the original Gold/Silver had: There is no level progression at all between the 5th and 7th Gyms. So I've done some changes to the wild Pokémon levels and every Trainer in the game after Violet City now has a different team.

This is a hack of Pokémon Gold.


Here are the main changes:
*All Pokémon exclusive to Pokémon Silver can now be caught in the wild
*The Gym order has been changed. Here is the new order that you challenge the Gyms:

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1. Falkner
2. Bugsy
3. Whitney
4. Morty
5. Pryce
6. Chuck
7. Jasmine

8. Clair

*Pryce, who is now the 5th Gym Leader, goes up to Lv34
*Chuck, who is now the 6th Gym Leader, goes up to Lv37
*Jasmine, who is now the 7th Gym Leader, goes up to Lv40, and has evolved one of her Magnemites, and her Steelix now knows Rock Slide
*Clair now goes up to Lv44, her first Dragonair is replaced with Gyarados, and her other two Dragonairs have had their movesets revised
*EVERY SINGLE TRAINER IN THE JOHTO REGION after Violet City has had their levels raised a bit, and some have had their teams changed to reflect Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver
**For instance, on Route 27, there is a Cool Trainer with a Lv31 Starmie, Lv31 Starmie, and Lv33 Nidoqueen. In HG/SS, her team was changed to Lv36 Growlithe, Lv36 Staryu, and Lv33 Nidorina. In Epic Gold, she now has Lv40 Arcanine, Lv40 Starmie, and Lv40 Nidoqueen.
*The Rocket Executives fought in the Radio Tower now have good movesets
*The final Rocket Executive (the one that becomes Archer in Gen IV) has evolved his Koffing, and replaced his Houndour with a Crobat
*Lance's Dragonite are no longer hax
*Many trainers in the Johto region no longer use hax Pokemon, simply due to higher level or me de-evolving them or replacing them
*Because Pryce is now the 5th Gym Leader, you're not supposed to set foot on Route 38 until you have 6 Badges. This allows for slightly higher levels. The levels have barely changed during the first 4 badges, but you'll definitely start to notice some of the differences during the 5th to 8th badges.


Gym Leader teams:
(Because the teams have barely changed during the first 4 leaders, I'm only going to list the last 4)

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5. Pryce
Lv30 Seel
Lv32 Dewgong
Lv34 Piloswine

6. Chuck
Lv34 Primeape
Lv37 Poliwrath

7. Jasmine
Lv36 Magnemite
Lv38 Magneton
Lv40 Steelix

8. Clair
Lv40 Gyarados
Lv42 Dragonair
Lv42 Dragonair
Lv44 Kingdra

Screenshots:
You know what Pokémon Gold looks like...


Tools used:
*GoldFinger hex editor
*Wild Pokémon Editor


Credits:
Chaos Rush - obviously...
Mateo - For making this tutorial
Bulbapedia - For listing opponent trainers so I know what names to search for in GoldFinger
Glitch City Labs - I used their Big Hex List for movesets & Pokemon and such


Download:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xarqroer17nvh2f

Length: All of Johto + E4. Kanto has not yet been edited. Patch the ips to a clean Pokémon Gold rom.


Also, before playing, remember this: PRYCE IS NOW THE 5TH GYM LEADER! AFTER YOU BEAT MORTY, DO NOT HEAD FOR OLIVINE CITY, HEAD TO MAHOGANY TOWN! DO NOT SET FOOT ON ROUTE 38 UNTIL YOU BEAT PRYCE!

And no, this hack does not represent what I wanted, "Pokémon Saga - HeartGold" to be. This is simply a mini-project just to see what G/S/C would have been like if there was actual level progression between the 5th & 7th Gyms, because there wasn't any in G/S/C/HG/SS. Please don't say something like, "omg this is hardly a hack at all" because I understand that, I'm not trying to make a full-fledged hack, this hack is quite literally Pokémon Gold with better level progression during the 5th and 7th Gyms and nothing else to it.

Revisions:
9/26/2010 10:24 AM - Fixed minor problem with Camper Liz and Camper Roland
9/26/2010 10:39 AM - Fixed minor problem with a Rocket Grunt and some Twins

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#2 1970-01-01 00:33:30

Miksy91
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Re: Pokémon Epic Gold

I think this hack is okay comparing to the things you're going to do  ☺
Not many will play this however.

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#3 1970-01-01 00:33:30

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I like this idea, especially since you actually touched most of the trainers, instead of just a few.

If you ever work on Kanto, it might be fun to steal some movesets from Stadium 2.

#4 1970-01-01 00:33:30

Chaos Rush
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Re: Pokémon Epic Gold

I updated the patch to fix a minor problem with Camper Liz and Camper Roland. I intended to change their Nidorans to Lv10, but I accidentally made them Lv16 because I put 10 in the hex editor rather than 0A, but it's fixed now. If you guys notice any other trainers with weird levels (in Johto), please mention it.


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I think this hack is okay comparing to the things you're going to do  ☺
Not many will play this however.

Well, obviously I'm not a GBC hacker, considering the work I did on DarkViolet. But I'm planning on making an 8-bit version of one of the Pokemon Saga games...


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I like this idea, especially since you actually touched most of the trainers, instead of just a few.

If you ever work on Kanto, it might be fun to steal some movesets from Stadium 2.

I will work on Kanto, but here are several things I would like to do to Kanto:
*Add more trainers
*Make map sizes and connections identical to the Gen I games
*Restore places that HeartGold/SoulSilver did, such as Seafoam Islands and Viridian Forest
*Add the Gen I legendaries that HeartGold/SoulSilver did, mainly the legendary birds and Mewtwo
*Add Fighting Dojo rematches like HeartGold/SoulSilver, except you don't have to call the Gym Leaders, instead you could just walk right in and a random 4 will be there, just like Platinum's Battleground
*Restore Kanto's proper soundtrack like HeartGold/SoulSilver did

Now pretty much, I have almost zero knowledge in GBC hacking (besides trainer hex editing, which is really easy), so I don't know how to do any of these, which is why I'm rather reluctant to work on Kanto. I can't stand G/S/C's tiny Kanto.

As for Kanto Leader movesets, I've never played the Stadium games, but I'll look at the sets. To be honest, for the final fights with the Rocket Executives, I took movesets from Smogon lol. Also I've looked everywhere for documentation on custom G/S/C music, but I can't find anything, so if anyone else knows how (I know it's possible, just play Pokemon Prism), that would be wonderful.


EDIT: Dammit I keep finding trainers that I accidentally gave Lv16 Pokemon instead of the intended Lv10. Uploaded a new patch with a few more trainer fixes.

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#5 2010-11-21 05:45:29

XmasterchiefX
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Re: Pokémon Epic Gold

Oh yeah I love this hack, I will download it now, I love when people make harder the regular games :3

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#6 2010-11-21 15:48:28

sonicblazeplatinum
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Re: Pokémon Epic Gold

Looks as interesting as Pokemon Saga games you are making. I will play it then as said before.

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#7 2010-12-04 01:45:18

Chaos Rush
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Re: Pokémon Epic Gold

I have a question for anyone who knows: Does anyone know why you can't edit the trainers on Route 41? I edited pretty much the entire Johto region with a hex editor while following Bulbapedia, and I noticed that Route 41 had unchanged trainers. I opened it up with a hex editor and according to GoldFinger I changed them, but they're still unchanged in-game.

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#8 2010-12-04 04:27:09

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Re: Pokémon Epic Gold

chaosrush wrote:

I have a question for anyone who knows: Does anyone know why you can't edit the trainers on Route 41?

There is nothing keeping you from editing the trainers on Route 41; they're just like normal trainers.

One thing to be careful of is that sometimes there are multiple versions of a trainer, fought after a phone call. If you're not careful, you'll edit the phone version of the team instead of the team used in the first encounter. For instance, there are three different versions of Youngster Joey: with a level 3 Rattata, a level 15 Rattata, and a level 21 Rattata with special attacks.

I don't think there are any trainers with phone numbers on Route 41, so it's more likely that you simply overlooked something. Try again and see if you get the same results.

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