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#1 2016-08-15 06:34:30

Rangi
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Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

I've been trying to draw a GSC-style sprite of Gym Leader Valerie by tracing over an in-game screenshot. (The X/Y NPC proportions, with large heads and short legs, are close to the way GSC trainers are drawn.) However, I'm not an artist. Her face looks like a crude sketch and I cannot get the legs right. Would anyone be willing to finish this? I'll give you credit when I use it in my game. Thanks.

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#2 2016-08-15 06:56:45

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

I attempted Valerie once since I wanted to use her in my eventual hack, using Erika (I don't think it was GSC's Erika, it might have been a fan sprite, this was a while ago) as a base to try and keep proportions right. I never finished it but I got this far:

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I didn't change her hair to match her canon length, and I never got the eyes right, but you might be able to get some use out of the WIP anyway.

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#3 2016-08-15 08:27:18

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Thank you! I see I'm not the only one to have trouble fitting her eyes in four pixels. I'll see what I can do with that.


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#4 2016-08-19 00:37:14

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Alright, I think this is as good as it's going to get:

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This is what I used as a base:

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Mmmmmm, if you're still working on that hack, feel free to use this sprite.


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#5 2016-08-19 03:31:02

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

That's not too bad. Not Game Freak material but better than I could ever do, I'd probably use that sprite over my own if I ever make real progress on the hack. Shortening the fake ears definitely helped it.

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#6 2016-08-19 10:18:23

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Mind if I add Valerie's sprite to the gen I/II sprite resource I'm building? I'll be sure to add credits of course.

Edit: Made a minor edit to the pallete (using colours directly from GS sprites) and edit to the face to improve the style, I hope it helps.

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Last edited by bloodless (2016-08-19 10:26:03)


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#7 2016-08-19 11:30:19

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

bloodless, please do! Thanks for the edits, but I prefer my face design. Her eyes are supposed to unnaturally large (contacts? makeup?), and the larger smile looks more like a grin. Your palette does fit better with GSC, although all color channels should be multiples of 8.

I think what bothers me about the face is the lack of a nose. This shading change kind of helps. Also changed the perspective of the fake ears. More shading/dithering on the cloth would also look good, like the Kimono Girl sprite, but I can't tell exactly where it's needed.

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#8 2016-08-19 11:41:00

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

That looks a lot better. I see your point about the eyes but I think the full outline on yours makes them appear somehow smaller. About the palette, I took it from an image from Spriters resource, I should have thought to check the colour channels. When I get a chance to get back on my laptop I'll try and take the two versions and make a 'best of'. Hopefully between these two edits something can be worked out, if not the current version is looking pretty good as is.

The extended point on the smile was meant to be the nose but maybe it would look better as a highlight instead of a shadow?


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#9 2016-08-19 11:48:42

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Maybe so. I'll come back to it later. Also, here's her overworld (the side view is not that good):

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#10 2016-08-19 13:48:20

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

I'm a bit of a wizard if I dare say so myself with trainer sprites, so I'm using bloodless' face to start with. I work with females the best, and this is a great base to work with!

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No offense to your face, but I strive to mimic Game Freak's style at all times with my sprites.

EDIT: Fixed the shading, changed the face further, also not sure why you were afraid to add black borders to the ribbons and her shoes, but I went ahead and fixed those up as well.

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Just a tip for future sprites, it's okay to make certain features more bulkier, Gen II is rather cartoony, and basically what yellow did with their pokemon, GSC did with the trainer sprites. Shading is key, and the lighting almost always comes from the top-left. It's a very good pixel-over, though, can't complain about the body at all.

As for palettes, pokecrystal will automatically adjust the colors, I tested it with my professor's sprite last night.

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#11 2016-08-19 16:18:00

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Thanks a lot, Pia Carrot! Your shading is subtle but effective. I went ahead and switched the eyes back, and closed the mouth. (It just doesn't look like Valerie to me without the fairy eyes.) And those long thin strings dangling from the outfit aren't showing up well with such limited space+color, so the front one is gone to show the dress's shape.

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Still playing with the colors. It could use pink, purple, or something in-between.

Last edited by Rangi (2016-08-19 17:29:09)


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#12 2016-08-19 16:29:31

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Spaced the eye out a bit, and widened the smile, I still prefer having her smiling with teeth showing but I see what you are going for. A couple more light touches.

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#13 2016-08-19 17:29:53

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Here are some eye variations. The white part is meant to be a gleam, not the white of the eye, but I see what bloodless means about it looking like a small eye with a heavy outline.

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#14 2016-08-19 17:44:33

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

I think the very top right looks best and most like the original.


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#15 2016-08-19 18:21:58

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I agree with Danny, for what you are going for top right would be best.

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#16 2016-08-19 18:42:52

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Re: Help me finish this GSC sprite of Valerie

Done. :) Thank you all for your help!

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