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#1 2013-05-22 08:28:59

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Why gyarados is water-flying type?

That makes it to extra weak to electric types and it cant learn a single flying type move it should be water-dragon type because it learn several dragon type moves.

And it cant fly also wtf.

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#2 2013-05-22 12:16:01

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Hmmm,based on a japanese dragon,who could fly w/magic..
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And also,if gyarados is a water/dragon,it will become so powerful bcoz the only weakness of gyarados in that is dragon type attacks..


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#3 2013-05-22 14:11:07

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Pokemonking wrote:

That makes it to extra weak to electric types and it cant learn a single flying type move it should be water-dragon type because it learn several dragon type moves.

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#4 2013-05-22 23:18:54

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

No there is a water-dragon pokemon kingdra why it is there and why gyarados is not water-dragon type?

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#5 2013-05-22 23:33:50

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

You've been given the "official" explanation. Beyond that, the only explanation is "they felt like making Gyarados Water/Flying and so they did."

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#6 2013-05-22 23:40:36

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

No,sorry @mateo i am not satisfied.

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#7 2013-05-22 23:58:20

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Gyarados is based off a water dragon, and because dragons fly, the two types a Gyarados has is Water and Flying.  If you're not satisfied with that explanation, that's fine.  You can make up your own reason if you want to.  If Pokemon could have up to three types then dragon probably would have been there as a type, but a max of three types would probably make the game too complicated, especially for young players.  If you want Gyarados to be a Water/Dragon type, then just make a hack with Gyarados's type changed.

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#8 2013-05-23 00:13:05

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Munchulax wrote:

Gyarados is based off a water dragon, and because dragons fly, the two types a Gyarados has is Water and Flying.  If you're not satisfied with that explanation, that's fine.  You can make up your own reason if you want to.  If Pokemon could have up to three types then dragon probably would have been there as a type, but a max of three types would probably make the game too complicated, especially for young players.  If you want Gyarados to be a Water/Dragon type, then just make a hack with Gyarados's type changed.

It's also been speculated that the dragon type was a very late addition to the games. There's only one dragon type move (0.61%), and only 3 dragon type Pokemon (1.99%). And the dragon type move is a fixed-damage move. Additionally, in the weaknesses/resistances table, all types dealing with dragon are located at the end of the table, despite the rest of it having some sort of order.


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#9 2013-05-23 03:30:29

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

I am thinking might this is the answer gyarados invented in generation 1 and if it was a water-dragon type it has no weakness because in generation 1 there is a only 1 dragon type move dragon rage that always deals 40 hp damage so might be for this nintendo made is water-flying what u all say?

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#10 2013-05-23 08:36:04

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Dragon-type is the last type that was added, this is true.
In fact, in the table it's the last value (1A).

I guess Game Freak added a special type, dragon, that was meant to be used only for dratini's family, and we know Dratini initially was meant to be a legendary pokemon, now's only half-legendary... Dragon type was meant as a very special type exclusive for Dratini family.

The fact Gyarados is flying type is because he's a kind of aquatic dragon (japanese folklore is full of monsters like this!), and if you saw the Anime on the TV you'll discover an episode where a Gyarados makes a tornado that makes fly away the protagonists from the shipwrecking SS Anne.

For some of these reasons, I dedcided in one of my hacks to made Gyarados water\wind type, because wind (a new type I added without replacing the old ones) makes more sense with Gyarados rather than flying, since he cannot fly and couldn't learn a flying move in GenI\II (why make a pokemon flying-type if he doesn't learn fly then???).


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#11 2013-05-23 10:42:09

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

About that Legendary Dratini thing. Don't mix up Anime with the games. They want to make you think rice balls are donuts. ;)

I thought it had to do with the origin of Magikarp; this tale about the carp leaping over the waterfall. I guess it took a shine to aeronautics.


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#12 2013-05-23 14:28:00

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Coz Gamefreak just wanted to make dragon type exclusive to the dratini family that time?

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#13 2013-05-23 19:21:42

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

I dunno, I know only Dratini was meant like a half-legendary...
It would be great if we know from Nintendo why they eliminated the other 14 types... and of course which were, for now we know only of Bird.


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#14 2013-05-24 01:47:19

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Gyarados is also a half legendry how about kingdra it is also a dragon pokemon and one thing the pokemon which learn hyper beam at end are related to dragon family or legendry.ex-tyranitar,aerodactyl,gyarados,octillery e.t.c

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#15 2013-05-24 03:51:33

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Legendary-sudo.


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#16 2013-05-24 11:52:55

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

About half-legendary I know only of Dratini (but wasn't made legendary) and Arcanine, in the last case it's sure Game Freak wanted made it legendary and he's a sort of prototype for Entei (someone said Nintendo wanted even put Entei in Red, but they didn't).

Anyway the final answer is: Gyarados is flying type because he's a kind of aquatic dragon, and when they made it the Dragon type didn't existed yet.


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#17 2013-05-24 13:10:52

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

80C wrote:

...
Anyway the final answer is: Gyarados is flying type because he's a kind of aquatic dragon, and when they made it the Dragon type didn't existed yet.

And they just don't want to spoil the game since Gyarados is catchable early in the game, if it was a dragon it can just pawn the game easily coz of it's advantages.

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#18 2013-05-24 15:09:38

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

right.


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#19 2013-05-25 17:33:41

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Read this article; quote taken from Reception section:


"They later called it (Gyrados) weird for being a Water/Flying type, but not being able to learn a flying move. Wired's John Mix Meyer described him as a "classic powerhouse", and GameSpy editor Justin Leeper called Gyarados a choice for "more macho gamers". IGN called it "one of the most powerful Pokémon ever encountered", comparing it to the image of Chinese mythological dragons. They also listed it as one of the best flying type Pokémon, describing it as a "flying sea snake." Author Ash Dekirk wrote that Gyarados and Magikarp were inspired by the Asiatic myth of the Dragon Gate. He adds that it is "scaled in sapphire" with "catfish barbels" on its "somewhat blunted snout". Author Loredane Lipperini similarly described Gyarados as resembling something from the Chinese New Year."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyarados

Also check out: http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/gyarados

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#20 2013-05-25 18:51:02

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

yeah, I knew Gyarados cames from Japanese myths (as many other pokemon, like Froslass), 6 years ago I even saw an image of a Japanese water Dragon and I said: <<wow, a gyarados!>>... it was really similar, same face. A dragon with the same face of gyarados, a water dragon.


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#21 2013-05-25 19:08:00

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Dude, check this out!

Strength_Dragon_epi.jpg?t=1242010713

A Japanese Water Dragon...

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#22 2013-05-26 02:00:01

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Awesome

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#23 2013-07-23 07:12:36

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Axe Jaw wrote:

Dude, check this out!

http://mob526.photobucket.com/albums/cc … 1242010713

A Japanese Water Dragon...

There is same looking dragon in game named Okami. It's good game.


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#24 2013-07-26 06:19:29

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Re: Why gyarados is water-flying type?

Kind of an old thread, but I just wanted to point out that a Water/Dragon Pokemon in Gen 1 would have NO weaknesses, as no Dragon type moves had been added to the game yet. This, combined with the fact that you can get a Gyrados as early as Mt. Moon would have totally broken the game. The reason they chose to make him part flying was for purely mythological reasons, as has already been discussed. I think it makes Gyrados fairly balanced.


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