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#1 2012-11-19 20:35:17

theoblivinator
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Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

Hack Name: Pokemon Gold: The Legendary Trainer Edition

Hack of: Pokemon Gold Version

Introduction:

I know it is a stupid title, but I can't think of anything else at the moment.

I've been working on this hack ever since I started posting here and I guess it is about time I make a progress thread on this site. I have one on the Nuzlocke Forums, but I feel like this site would be more appropriate. I neglected to show off what you guys have been helping me with.

Storyline: In a nutshell this hack has the same story as Pokemon Gold, but includes a sub-story or plot that involves a search for the Legendary Trainer. The Legendary Trainer is a trainer from Kanto who rose up, became the Pokemon League Champion, and was able to capture and control the Legendary Pokemon Lugia, a feat thought to be impossible. As a rising trainer from Johto you will become the new Pokemon League Champion and seek out the Legendary Pokemon Ho-oh, and challenge The Legendary Trainer, ending with a climatic battle that will determine who is the real Pokemon Master.

Features: Well quite a bit actually!

1.) Trainer rosters and levels have been modified to be slightly more difficult and interesting. The level curve should be more smooth throughout the game and steadily increase (instead of jumping all over the place in regular second gen).

2.) Gym Leaders and the E4 members have been modified to have harder teams and contain new team members. I'm not going to go overboard and give them all six Pokemon, but four-five should be the norm.

3.) Wild Pokemon encounters have been modified. Expect interesting Pokemon in routes. There are no more version exclusives, so all the exclusives of Silver, R/B/Y are available to catch at some point in the game (or as gift Pokemon). Also the levels of the wild Pokemon have been modified so if you feel the need to grind you shouldn't have to spend hours grinding against level 3 Bellsprouts forever.

4.) Many Pokemon have received new stats and new movepools. Most "derps" like Spinark and Caterpie (and their evolutions) received overhauls to make them useful throughout the entire game. I'm trying to at least make one small change to every Pokemon, even if it is just learning one new move, or changing the levels at which they learn moves, or a small stat change, etc....

5.) Trade Evolutions have been modified to be level-up evolutions or item evolutions.

6.) Some moves have had their Base Power, typing, and/or effects modified.

7.) Several new custom events have been scripted into maps, and many more should come as I progress along in the hack.

When will it be released: I plan on releasing betas as I reach certain "check points" in the game. Beta V1 should be released once I complete everything up to the 4th Gym. Beta V2 will be released once I complete everything up to the 8th gym... you get the idea. As of writing this I just finished everything up to the Ruins of Alph (first visit), so expect the first beta with-in a month or two (if I keep making good progress like I have).

Screenshots:

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This is one of the custom events that takes place right after you leave Elm's lab after receiving your first partner. I run-in with Lance the Dragon Master!

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These are some of the Pokemon that are now available in the earlier routes of the game. Like I said earlier there are no version exclusives anymore in this game and interesting Pokemon can be found sooner!

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Here are some edits to the first few trainers. The levels start off higher and some trainers have different teams.

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Now Lance blocks the gym until you finish up Sprout Tower. There is more dialogue to this conversation, but I'm keeping it hidden for now.

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Sprout Tower won't be a walk in the park either. All Sage's are higher leveled and have diverse teams, which again I'm keeping under wraps as of now.

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Sage Li has a mysterious two member team now. I wonder what two they could be?

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Once you get the Flash HM, you're allowed to enter the gym!

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It's not much but I modified the map in the Ruins of Alph. This is to help out with another custom event that takes place here.

This is an event that I scripted that I'm proud of. It was also the most difficult so far. It takes place after the first battle with your Rival, when you attempt to leave Cherrygrove City via the northern exit.

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This is before the event.

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This takes place if the Gent Guide is still standing at the edge of the town when you battle your rival for the first time. Of course I gave him different dialogue if he was in his house when you battled your rival the first time. And if you don't want to Pokemon or your party is full.... well don't worry. You're able to visit him in his house later and when you talk to him he'll offer you the Pokemon that your rival threw away. Check it out!

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This is before the event. I chose a different starter to show off the dynamic nature of the script.

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Well that was definitely a difficult script for a beginning hacker like myself. But I'm learning more and more every time I work on this project. Now I just have to finish my Ruins of Alph event and that should be all the custom events for awhile. They definitely take some time but make it worth it.

Conclusion: Well that all I have to show right now. I still have plenty of ideas I want to implement into this hack. My progress is generally slow and steady since I'm still a beginner at this, but I want to first beta out before the end of the year at the very least. If you would be kind to provide feedback that would be swell as well.

THANKS FOR READING! :D

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#2 2012-11-19 20:43:08

comet
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

theoblivinator wrote:

Now Lance blocks the gym until you finish up Sprout Tower.

Why?

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#3 2012-11-19 22:05:41

theoblivinator
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

comet wrote:
theoblivinator wrote:

Now Lance blocks the gym until you finish up Sprout Tower.

Why?

If you are asking "Why?" as to why the gym is blocked, it is because I want the player to finish Sprout Tower before challenging the gym.

If you are asking "Why?" as to why I chose Lance as a character to block it, it is because he plays a major role in my hack and it makes sense story-wise for him to be there. Plus I just like him.

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#4 2012-11-19 22:06:13

johnr754
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

comet wrote:
theoblivinator wrote:

Now Lance blocks the gym until you finish up Sprout Tower.

Why?

I think this has something to do with HGSS, in which you cannot access Violet Gym until you beat Sprout Tower.

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#5 2012-11-19 22:09:35

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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

theoblivinator wrote:

I want the player to finish Sprout Tower before challenging the gym.

Why?

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#6 2012-11-19 22:18:26

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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

comet wrote:
theoblivinator wrote:

I want the player to finish Sprout Tower before challenging the gym.

Why?

Well, the screenshots of Lance and the dialogue while he is blocking the gym sum up my reasons. Basically it is plot related and the training is useful. This is how it is handled in HG/SS as well.

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#7 2012-11-20 06:41:39

Miksy91
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

I do agree with comet that it doesn't make any sense for Lance blocking the gym, especially if talking to him is related to the plot yet player doesn't have to talk to him at all. I do create "plot walls" in my hack too yet they have one meaning or another for blocking an area from entering.

Other than that, the hack does seem quite cool and I like the planning behind getting another starter pokemon there. But what about it now? Does Elm want the stolen pokemon back ;) ?

Although I do like the looks of this hack, I'd much rather see you doing something way different. I wouldn't have interest in completing a hack like this myself, that's why I chose mine to be completely different from the original versions so I could do plan everything on my own. You might want to consider doing the same.

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#8 2012-11-20 08:30:12

rko420
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

I also agree with comet . Maybe you can add prof. Elm's aide or a sage in exchange of it. Just an idea;-)


Ready for saving the world

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#9 2012-11-20 17:04:01

theoblivinator
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

Miksy91 wrote:

I do agree with comet that it doesn't make any sense for Lance blocking the gym, especially if talking to him is related to the plot yet player doesn't have to talk to him at all. I do create "plot walls" in my hack too yet they have one meaning or another for blocking an area from entering.

Other than that, the hack does seem quite cool and I like the planning behind getting another starter pokemon there. But what about it now? Does Elm want the stolen pokemon back ;) ?

Although I do like the looks of this hack, I'd much rather see you doing something way different. I wouldn't have interest in completing a hack like this myself, that's why I chose mine to be completely different from the original versions so I could do plan everything on my own. You might want to consider doing the same.

Lance stays because that is how I want the story to unfold and it makes sense to me. As for wanting the stolen Pokemon back, I didn't post any screenshots of it because I want some things to remain a surprise for players that try this out, but there is another event involving the Pokemon that was left behind at the lab. I'll just leave it at that.

As for doing something different with my hack, I want to start off basic. There is no need for me to get way in over my head with a huge project when I'm still learning the basics of hacking. When I feel more comfortable with everything then sure, I can definitely try something better. We just have different personalities.

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#10 2012-11-20 21:04:58

Miksy91
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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

theoblivinator wrote:

Lance stays because that is how I want the story to unfold and it makes sense to me. As for wanting the stolen Pokemon back, I didn't post any screenshots of it because I want some things to remain a surprise for players that try this out, but there is another event involving the Pokemon that was left behind at the lab. I'll just leave it at that.

As for doing something different with my hack, I want to start off basic. There is no need for me to get way in over my head with a huge project when I'm still learning the basics of hacking. When I feel more comfortable with everything then sure, I can definitely try something better. We just have different personalities.

Okay, sounds good. If you want to start a bigger project later on, try plan out the storyline and its plot twists before starting to do anything else. I didn't do so myself and have regretted it.

I do like the way this is turning out though.

P.S
That was more of an advice I said earlier. Personally, I have gotten quite bored of all non-hacking stuff like mapping, trainer and wild pokemon editing and so on... (even simple scripting and text editing). Only things making me continue (and really want to!) are the plot twists and quests I want to share; let others see all I've planned for this. And I do want to see how it's going to turn out myself too, hahha.
If I was to start making a "collect gym badges and challenge elite four" type of a hack, I wouldn't be able to complete it, no motivation in doing so.

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#11 2012-12-31 19:22:10

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Re: Pokemon Gold : The Legendary Trainer Editon

A little progress report can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5WJwEuS_M

It's just a quick video I made of another script I added to the hack.

As for a real progress report I have some good news. Over the holidays I was sitting in a car for long periods of time while my family and I traveled to my relatives. So I managed to get quite a bit of progress done. I know I wanted a beta out by December, but it looks like that will be pushed to mid January, which I don't think is to much longer. Once again the beta will go up to the fourth gym. I only have one more major script that I can think of right now to add, but I'm getting very good at scripting if I do say so myself so that shouldn't take to long when I get there.

Right now I'm just touching up on the wild Pokemon available in routes, trainer and gym leader rosters, and the Pokemon changes like movepools, stats, ect...

So no, I haven't forgotten about this. Also Happy New Year to everyone!

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